They have no fear, and especially no Godly fear! They have ALOT to answer for! I sure wouldn't want to be in their shoes come judgement day that's for sure!!
Sincerely,
Lady Liberty
hello friends,.
my dad just found this article when doing some research for a letter he was sending my aunt and grandmother showing them how unscriptural shunning is.
i was blown away!!
They have no fear, and especially no Godly fear! They have ALOT to answer for! I sure wouldn't want to be in their shoes come judgement day that's for sure!!
Sincerely,
Lady Liberty
my father (who's an elder) just sent me this link...and i'd like to get yall opinions on it before i call him back:.
apostates and other opposers argue that jerusalem was not destroyed in 607 bce, but in 587 bce, and provide what they claim is archaeological evidence to support this.
if 607 bce is wrong, then the seven times prophecy ending in 1914 ce would be wrong also.. .
Dear tryingtoexit,
Wow..your wife, and now your Dad? Poor dear!! Here is a chart with scriptures I posted a long time ago regarding this subject. Using scriptures and BM#s it PROVES 607 is wrong!!! I'd like to know how your Dad will respond to this?? Here it is...keep us posted.
Sincerely,
Lady Liberty
Hi everyone,
I just made this chart for my brother-in-law using the Bible as well as the book entitled Assyrian & Babylonian Chronicles by A.K. Grayson printed in 1975. Grayson is a world renound expert used to decipher the Assyrian and Babylonian Chronicles for the British Museum. I checked out this book from the local library. Although they had to send away to a College University for it. A interesting note: the Society uses this very book in the Insight Vol.2 under Nebuchadnezzar to support their dates. When I got this book, it was for the purpose of checking their dates and quotes of this author. As you will see by this chart, they have misquoted him to serve their own deceitful purpose! I included scriptures that support the chronicles. Like I said, I made this for my brother-in-law, but thought someone out there might be able to use it.
Have a great night!
Lady Liberty
The Seventy Years: 609 to 539 BCE
609- Nabopolassars 17 th reignal year. Babylon was dominating all surrounding nations. See Jer. 25:11, 25:17- 26. 27:6-8, 12-13(All the nations will have to SERVE the king of Babylon seventy years.) The 70 years begin. ( Babylonian Chronicle 3- BM 21901)
607- Nabopolassars 19 th reignal year. Nebuchadnessar was not even in power yet! He was only a crowned prince at this time. (Babylonian Chronicle 4 –BM 22047)
605- Nabopolassars 21 st reignal year. Battle of Carchemish , between Egypt and Babylon. Nabopolassar dies and Nebuchadnezar accends the thrown. This is year 0 for Nebuchadnezzars reign. Daniel finds himself exiled to Babylon, as well as the Royal offspring of Jerusalem, the utensils of the house of Jehovah were carried to Babylon. See Daniel 1- 2:1. Jer. 29:1,20 (Babylonian Chronicle 5- BM 21946)
603- Nebuchadnezzars second reignal year. See. Dan. 2:1
586/587- Jerusalem burned. Nebuchadnessars ninteenth reignal year. See Jer. 52:12-16 (There were still lowly ones left remaining in the city.)
562-End of Nebuchadnezzars reign.
557-Neriglissars third reignal year. ( Chronicle 6 –BM 25124)
556- Nabonidus becomes King. (Nabonidus Chronicle 7- BM35382)
539- 70 are fullfilled. Nabonidus is King of Babylon at this time. Cyrus overtakes Babylon in one night. Handwriting on the wall. Jews released from servitude. See- Dan. 5:25-26 Jer. 25: 12 ( Nabonidus Chronicle: Chronicle 7-BM 36304)
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would you say that's the beginning of the end?
hubby's researching if the beginning date can be proven from the bible its starting date is 607. clearly, he won't find the answer.... here's hoping he will see the light... .
Dear Cognac,
Also, you may encourage your husband to use the British Museum online to compare dates. You will see exact photos of cuneiforms used in the literature, that they have used from the museum, but key is the dates they fill in to replace the dates the British Museum experts give. It is easy to see the deception, and when you see this for the first time it will be only natural to ask "What the Hell is going on!!"
Especially since the British Museum won't most likely be considered an "apostate" website, this may be helpful to you. Anyhow...hope this helps. And I agree with the poster Issacaustin, the battle of Carchemish is extreemly important in the 607 research.
Also..here is another post I did a long time ago when I checked out A.K. Graysons book from the Library. I found complete deception (suprise, suprise..) because the author is the exact person the Society quotes 607 from. He is the British Museums "expert on the subject". The insert the date 607, when he clearly states in the preface of the book 586,587 for the destruction of Jerusalem!!
Hope this helps somehow.
Sincerely,
Lady Liberty
so we had our circuit assembly this past weekend, and it was the first one in my life that i told my wife i would not be attending.
we had a brief conversation on why, and she said well just go to this last one with me, and then when we can discuss what we learn and compare it to why you've been expressing your "new" feelings towards the wts.. i love my wife, and as much as i thought i was gonna hate it i decided to go.
now that i no longer want to be a jehovah's witness it really didnt bother me that nobody hardly talked to me despite me living in this same area for 4 1/2 years, everybody views me as spiritually weak because i dont go out in service, rarely attend meetings, dont comment, lesson is never underlined, so the "friends" never interact with me anyway and i'm use to it, actually that's the way i prefer it.
Dear tryingtoexit,
First of all..(((HUGS))!!!
I am so sorry you are going through this. It is really hard when you are the mate finding out your living a lie first. Believe me I know the feeling well, as do many here! Hang in there though. I would really encourage you to think things through, before you throw in the towel with your wife. If you are patient, and perhaps ask her to try and help you, you may be able to help her see the light in the process.
However it is critical that you pick a subject that is doctorinal. Otherwise too many times people want to use the old.."They are just imperfect humans..." excuse, and brush you off, also you look like you are fault finding. Have you done any research on 607? If you haven't then I highly suggest you do, and use this as your subject.
The reason is, is the doctorine of 607 CANNOT be proven using the Bible, only the Societies literature. If you look at the British Museum online at the exact cuneiforms that the Society takes pictures of and use, you will see they put their own dates next to them in their publications, and ignore the actual dates given by the experts.
This was "pandors box" for my husband and I. Yet in the begining my husband made me feel we may end in divorse too if I kept researching. I begged him to help me clear this up in my mind, using ONLY the Bible. He couldn't. And then he began his exit. I might add that we were VERY active JWs, and we were NOT looking to leave. Butr in the end we both came out together. Please read my story, as it may really help you.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/109978/1/Its-High-Time-I-Introduce-Myself
Please keep us posted as to how things are going. And know there are hundreds here who have walked in simular shoes, that you can lean on for support.
Sincerely,
Lady Liberty
would you say that's the beginning of the end?
hubby's researching if the beginning date can be proven from the bible its starting date is 607. clearly, he won't find the answer.... here's hoping he will see the light... .
Dear Cognac,
I am so excited for you!! Our 607 research was the begining of the end for my husband and I. It was like opening "pandoras box"!! Here is a old post on the subject that I did a long time ago that might help. I posted alot of my findings on the subject, especially in my earlier posts, so you can find more info there too. Keep us posted!!
Sincerely,
Lady Liberty
Here it is:
Hi everyone,
I just made this chart for my brother-in-law using the Bible as well as the book entitled Assyrian & Babylonian Chronicles by A.K. Grayson printed in 1975. Grayson is a world renound expert used to decipher the Assyrian and Babylonian Chronicles for the British Museum. I checked out this book from the local library. Although they had to send away to a College University for it. A interesting note: the Society uses this very book in the Insight Vol.2 under Nebuchadnezzar to support their dates. When I got this book, it was for the purpose of checking their dates and quotes of this author. As you will see by this chart, they have misquoted him to serve their own deceitful purpose! I included scriptures that support the chronicles. Like I said, I made this for my brother-in-law, but thought someone out there might be able to use it.
Have a great night!
Lady Liberty
The Seventy Years: 609 to 539 BCE
609- Nabopolassars 17 th reignal year. Babylon was dominating all surrounding nations. See Jer. 25:11, 25:17- 26. 27:6-8, 12-13(All the nations will have to SERVE the king of Babylon seventy years.) The 70 years begin. ( Babylonian Chronicle 3- BM 21901)
607- Nabopolassars 19 th reignal year. Nebuchadnessar was not even in power yet! He was only a crowned prince at this time. (Babylonian Chronicle 4 –BM 22047)
605- Nabopolassars 21 st reignal year. Battle of Carchemish , between Egypt and Babylon. Nabopolassar dies and Nebuchadnezar accends the thrown. This is year 0 for Nebuchadnezzars reign. Daniel finds himself exiled to Babylon, as well as the Royal offspring of Jerusalem, the utensils of the house of Jehovah were carried to Babylon. See Daniel 1- 2:1. Jer. 29:1,20 (Babylonian Chronicle 5- BM 21946)
603- Nebuchadnezzars second reignal year. See. Dan. 2:1
586/587- Jerusalem burned. Nebuchadnessars ninteenth reignal year. See Jer. 52:12-16 (There were still lowly ones left remaining in the city.)
562-End of Nebuchadnezzars reign.
557-Neriglissars third reignal year. ( Chronicle 6 –BM 25124)
556- Nabonidus becomes King. (Nabonidus Chronicle 7- BM35382)
539- 70 are fullfilled. Nabonidus is King of Babylon at this time. Cyrus overtakes Babylon in one night. Handwriting on the wall. Jews released from servitude. See- Dan. 5:25-26 Jer. 25: 12 ( Nabonidus Chronicle: Chronicle 7-BM 36304)
hello friends,.
my dad just found this article when doing some research for a letter he was sending my aunt and grandmother showing them how unscriptural shunning is.
i was blown away!!
Hypocritical articles printed by the Watchtower like this, is shocking, but always reconfirms our decision to leave the Borg! I would have LOVED to have known about this article when we got DF'D!! I would have liked to see them try and squirm out of this one!!
Sincerely,
Lady Liberty
hello friends,.
my dad just found this article when doing some research for a letter he was sending my aunt and grandmother showing them how unscriptural shunning is.
i was blown away!!
BTTT
i wondered, since the jws claim that jesus is their teacher, what evidence do they have of jesus shunning "bad associations"?
it seems to me, from reading the bible, that the religious people of his day really gave him a hard time, because he actually spent the majority of his time with "bad associates", rather than shunning them.
thomas, though he followed jesus, wasn't totally convinced.
Hello,
I just posted this about the JW shunning. I am sure you will find it very interesting, I sure did!!
Sincerely,
Lady Liberty
Hello friends,
My Dad just found this article when doing some research for a letter he was sending my Aunt and Grandmother showing them how unscriptural shunning is. I was blown away!! This article PROVES they knew the practice of shunning was PAGAN prior to the Watchtower instituting the shunning practice into their own religion. My husband and I were Df'D because we were celebrating Christmas. Something were were told by the disfellowshipping elders that we knew better because it was "pagan". Yet they will practice "paganism" themselves and shun us!! What a bunch of HYPOCRITES!! Anyhow, this article really got to me, but felt it was very powerful, and might just help someone with their friends and family!!
Here it is: http://governingbodyletters.blogspot.com/2008/06/according-to-awake-january-8-1947.html
Sicerely,
Lady Liberty
hello friends,.
my dad just found this article when doing some research for a letter he was sending my aunt and grandmother showing them how unscriptural shunning is.
i was blown away!!
Hello friends,
My Dad just found this article when doing some research for a letter he was sending my Aunt and Grandmother showing them how unscriptural shunning is. I was blown away!! This article PROVES they knew the practice of shunning was PAGAN prior to the Watchtower instituting the shunning practice into their own religion. My husband and I were Df'D because we were celebrating Christmas. Something were were told by the disfellowshipping elders that we knew better because it was "pagan". Yet they will practice "paganism" themselves and shun us!! What a bunch of HYPOCRITES!! Anyhow, this article really got to me, but felt it was very powerful, and might just help someone with their friends and family!!
Here it is: http://governingbodyletters.blogspot.com/2008/06/according-to-awake-january-8-1947.html
Sicerely,
Lady Liberty
it's three parts, not super-long.
i really can't believe the stuff the elders said in this case.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhgdqgtth98.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uy4s1ohs9r4.
Hi Tuesday...
Oh...LOL!! Well (((HUGS))) to you anyhow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lady Liberty